tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post6399290933602076299..comments2024-03-28T15:51:38.912-04:00Comments on Ms. Yingling Reads: MMGM- Ghosts and ControversyMs. Yinglinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17805324364289597178noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-83256972055175166852017-02-07T08:19:31.930-05:002017-02-07T08:19:31.930-05:00I was checking this article and this showed someth...I was checking this article and this showed something bad impact about <a href="https://www.funklist.com/controversial-cartoon-characters/" rel="nofollow">Cartoon Characters</a> but in the end it gave me some information tooDanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18246797729372072533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-23792158657180485062016-11-22T08:27:18.841-05:002016-11-22T08:27:18.841-05:00We really appreciate your post. It is so importan...We really appreciate your post. It is so important that we talk together about books - Which parts of the book resonate with us and with our students? Which parts of the book may be inaccurate? Whose point of view is missing from the text? The more we help students think beyond plot, the more we help them to develop critical literacy skills.Tammy and Clarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10198606590637294057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-12365778459947143342016-11-21T21:46:05.795-05:002016-11-21T21:46:05.795-05:00I didn't do a IMWAYR post this week but your p...I didn't do a IMWAYR post this week but your post intrigued me and I admire your bravery. Diverse books are important. I am really thankful for everyone's conversations about this book. I also definitely agree with the points about listening and still having the book in your library. It's a great discussion starter and sometimes we need to be educated about other viewpoints and facts that we may not be aware of. Great post and love your blog! Billhttp://billbrarian.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-47026332880735310922016-11-21T16:05:58.778-05:002016-11-21T16:05:58.778-05:00Thanks for including the links to various conversa...Thanks for including the links to various conversations about the book. Seems to me that listening is one of the most important things we can all do. I've been struggling with the same questions myself about my writing. Daniel Jose Older wrote a wonderful piece about Writing the Other that everyone should read (with bonus gorgeous artwork):<br /><br />https://www.buzzfeed.com/danieljoseolder/fundamentals-of-writing-the-other?utm_term=.xmA5xLmRd#.nfMb8OEe2<br /><br />I particularly like #10: "The fact that you will mess it up is not a reason not to do it."Kim Aippersbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02556947405633680410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-36425850985141559692016-11-21T14:26:18.231-05:002016-11-21T14:26:18.231-05:00I personally think that the author's lack of u...I personally think that the author's lack of understanding about how Native Americans were treated by Catholics in the missions is due to this being suppressed information that is not widely known but I think this graphic novel is a great starting place to point out this deficiency and bring this history forth as it should be. Therefore, instead of saying this book should not be read, I say, read this book and read the links and discuss why we, the reading public, don't know about these things. And why, perhaps, the author didn't either. And how to bring these narratives out into more accurate textbooks and other resources so that it becomes mainstream information.Miahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17692123101396750971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-83023247211450185852016-11-21T13:15:23.080-05:002016-11-21T13:15:23.080-05:00I think there is a difference between writing an a...I think there is a difference between writing an authentic character who is different than you and appropriating a culture or cultural stereotypes to serve a plot purpose. I agree with reviewers that Raina crossed that line in Ghosts, but I still have it in my library. It's led to some interesting discussions.Katie TheLogonautshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01692992719352402255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-36254796381093071742016-11-21T12:20:19.874-05:002016-11-21T12:20:19.874-05:00I too struggle with reviewing diverse books. I am ...I too struggle with reviewing diverse books. I am also a straight, middle class, white woman. I'm lucky to have roots in a Native American group, but look more like my German father's family. I do think that writers who are going to write about cultural practices outside their own experiences have a responsibility to ensure it is respectful and realistic. I'm really sorry about this book. Cheriee Weichelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15662398117320256935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-31529288728850697422016-11-21T11:45:26.227-05:002016-11-21T11:45:26.227-05:00After reading about all the controversy over this ...After reading about all the controversy over this book, I asked several students who had read it to give me some feedback. I wish I had taped the conversation. One Mexican-American student said (not directly quoting here): The whole Day of the Dead stuff is different in every part of Mexico. My dad and mom grew up in the same state but two different villages and have totally different ideas about what we should do! My mom's family hung out in the cemetery, my dad's family just had a big party. Then she pointed at her friend and said, And she's half Mexican and half Puerto Rican, and she never even heard of Day of the Dead! All the students of Mexican descent told me similar stories, of how different the celebrations were depending on what part of Mexico you came from. Many of them said their families did nothing special, others traveled north a bit to a large Day of the Dead celebration. So, I struggled with this one, too, but I'm deferring to my students and their #ownvoices. <br /><br />I do understand the concerns of some readers on how CF was portrayed,but again, everyone has a different experience with illness. Back in the 1970s, my mother was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease. She spent 4 years in and out of the hospital and died about 6 years after her diagnosis. Another woman we know, diagnosed at the same time, lived symptom-free well into her late 80s. And if we just want to look at fiction, we can all reflect on The Fault in Our Stars, right? <br /><br />I would be sure to share Funny Bones by Duncan Tonatiuh with any student who read Ghosts, especially in middle school. Our Spanish teacher shared the story of Lupe Posada with me, and this book is a great introduction to his calaveras and their use as satirical and political statements. (And wouldn't that make an interesting research project for a student who loves graphic novels!)<br /><br />And by the way, I'd buy you a DOZEN cookies for all your reviews! You help me spend my small book budget.<br /><br />MaryMary Reilley Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11813103725312625333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-34408708246928895772016-11-21T11:17:20.912-05:002016-11-21T11:17:20.912-05:00Ha! I love your quip about what you really think. ...Ha! I love your quip about what you really think. It is sad that people get so worked up about this stuff. That said, sometimes controversy brings publicity. Would you have looked twice at the book without all the press? frogs-snails-geckotails.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683678572851188186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-23515745398209794062016-11-21T10:28:49.291-05:002016-11-21T10:28:49.291-05:00Thank you for sharing the controversy about Ghosts...Thank you for sharing the controversy about Ghosts. I am looking forward to reading it myself to see what I think.S. Mozerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07698931830589851492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-12223644297408489242016-11-21T10:17:09.568-05:002016-11-21T10:17:09.568-05:00I love your first paragraph. It highlights the div...I love your first paragraph. It highlights the diversity issue no one wants to talk about. There is not room here to discuss this issue, but I ache to say, the scathing criticisms some writers endure only increases the divide. It forces people to take sides, become "us and them." "Biracial" kids may suffer the most. Ask the biracial families in my social circles. I had hoped that as our society in particular becomes an ever increasing melting pot, we could forego the race label and focus instead on heritage. I should have known better. <br /><br />Much of the diversity debate is based on flawed thinking. To say that one culture is totally unified on how they should be represented is arrogant and narrow. Critics are representatives, but they do not speak for an entire group of people. Even to say that they speak for the majority can be a dangerous attitude. Does that mean the opinions of the minority (within the minority, as it were) are invalid?<br /><br />Regarding the book itself, I have no Mexican ancestors, but my Mexican and Mexican-American friends have no problem with this book. Also, I find it counter-productive that many of the criticisms of this book in particular are based on the idea that a non-white cultural tradition is off-limits in fantasy. Is it disrespectful to tell a flood story? A Jack tale? A Cinderella variant? A story which references God in any way? Are Germans or French or Jews or Christians being defamed? Are their cultures being stripped by a modern retelling or a twisted adaptation? Modern diversity proponents would have to say yes, but they do not. This is the highest form of bigotry, using the cloak of diversity to advance one culture by marginalizing another. They do the thing they say they seek to abolish.<br /><br />Sorry, I'll stop now. <br /><br />Thanks for having the courage to review this book. I don't celebrate Dia De Los Muertos. The whole idea of ghosts is counter to my religious convictions. My sister does not have cystic fibrosis. But I do celebrate spiritual holidays. I do believe in certain supernatural occurrences. My family is affected by life-changing, debilitating genetic disease. That's the POV I use to come at this book. And that's why I am not offended by Telgemeier's sincere vision. Joanne Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11019039952521739669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-31626383364446622492016-11-21T09:20:38.309-05:002016-11-21T09:20:38.309-05:00There was a heated, though respectful, debate on t...There was a heated, though respectful, debate on this topic at our regional SCBWI conference. No resolution but being accurate with facts whether it be fiction or non-fiction seemed to be one point of agreement. Greg Pattridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05761872776035591138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-86527769656555894142016-11-21T08:48:59.793-05:002016-11-21T08:48:59.793-05:00I love that you're trying to write your own no...I love that you're trying to write your own novel based off of reality. I don't think there's ever been a great story written that doesn't have its roots in truth. Maybe you could try subtly incorporating the concept of biracialism by evening out the number of biracial students in the story, rather than isolating one child?<br />Vedika @ Poems and Poetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07897669780777070634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22559214.post-63955869465190405592016-11-21T07:41:54.037-05:002016-11-21T07:41:54.037-05:00I recently attended a "Death Faire" in m...I recently attended a "Death Faire" in my town that was supposed to be like a Day of the Dead celebration but it raised a lot of questions for me re cultural appropriation. I think some people in this country just like the colorful alters.That said, I think it is fine for you to write about biracial characters. We would never have The Snowy Day by Ezra Keats if people only wrote about people who looked like/and had the same life experience they did.Susanhttp://timetraveltimestwo.comnoreply@blogger.com